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So, explorers, let's dive into today's episode.
Welcome explorers. It's Tara. In today's episode, Karen and I are digging into the intriguing relationship between intimate intuition and intellect. These two powerful forces can either work in harmony or create conflict within us, guiding our choices in unexpected ways.
Have you ever experienced that nagging gut feeling urging you to take a different path, even when logic seems to tell you otherwise? Maybe you found yourself caught in a web of overthinking, analyzing every possible outcome until you feel paralyzed. We definitely understand these struggles and are here to explore them with you. So join us as we unravel how intuition and intellect can guide us toward authentic decisions and deeper self awareness.
[00:01:44] Speaker B: I love it. That was an amazing introduction of this subject because it's so true. They're connected and intertwined, but who gets in the way? Or who might not be listening? Like, there's like all these different things that I want to say about it. So it's such a good subject.
[00:01:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay, so let's start on the intuition side of the house in the simplest of terms. I had to find some dictionary definitions and try to come up with something that gets us all speaking the same language as we talk about intuition. It is the ability to understand or know something without the need for conscious reasoning.
[00:02:23] Speaker B: It's a subconscious kind of thing, right?
[00:02:26] Speaker A: Yeah. It's often described as a gut feeling or an inner knowing that helps us make decisions or solve problems quickly.
It's the subtle sense you get about something, often based on past experiences or instincts rather than analysis or facts.
[00:02:42] Speaker B: Oh man, those are great definitions. They're so spot on. I've always had strong intuition, but there were a lot of years that I just didn't listen to it. It's really important to listen to it when you get that little tap on the shoulder or that nudge, or you hear that whisper or get that idea that's real, that's telling you something. Gotta listen to our intuition. It's really important.
[00:03:04] Speaker A: It definitely is. You and I have talked about the concept of red threads before. I feel like intuition is definitely in the vein of Red threads, the things that speak to you. Those are the truest parts of who we are because they're the things that are kind of pure and unclouded.
[00:03:21] Speaker B: Those are the things that, like, just really easily, naturally light you up. Right. Like it's like follow joy. Like follow that. Yeah, totally.
[00:03:31] Speaker A: All right, so let's talk about a couple of misconceptions about intuition.
[00:03:38] Speaker B: Oh, I would love to hear that, because I'm sure I've heard all of them from my certain peoples.
[00:03:44] Speaker A: First misconception, intuition is infallible.
Many people believe that intuition is always correct and should be trusted without question.
How do you feel about that?
[00:03:56] Speaker B: I don't think without question, but I do think. Think it is. I'm gonna say, like 98. Spot on. Sometimes our mind can sort of get inside of it, and we think it's intuition, but it's habit or it's history. But intuition, purely in and of itself. I'm a. I'm a believer in following it 100% of the time. I've only ever gotten into trouble when I didn't follow it. So to me, it's like reverse engineering. If I follow it all the time, then less trouble. Right, Less trouble.
[00:04:26] Speaker A: Second misconception, Intuition is the same as instinct.
[00:04:31] Speaker B: Oh, interesting. Intuition is the same as instinct. No, instinct feels more like primal survival. A noticing, it's like that peripheral vision, it feels more physical.
[00:04:42] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:04:43] Speaker B: And intuition is more that sort of gut, heart connection.
[00:04:48] Speaker A: Instinct is definitely biological. In our recent episode when we were talking about fear and how it served us historically in ancient times. Right, like that's for instance.
[00:04:58] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:04:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:04:58] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:04:59] Speaker A: Third misconception. Oh, boy. Only certain people have intuition.
[00:05:05] Speaker B: Bollocks. Everyone has intuition. Everyone has that inner voice. How deep you bury it, that's up to you. And whether or not you ever listen to it, that's your choice. In the stillness, it speaks. Everyone has intuition.
[00:05:17] Speaker A: Not just artists or creatives.
[00:05:19] Speaker B: Everyone, not just people who are considered clairvoyant, healers, shaman. It's everyone, literally everyone. Your Aunt Sally has intuition.
[00:05:29] Speaker A: Yes. Because really, at the end of the day, we are all creatives. We spoke about that when we're talking about the different manifestations of creativity. Sometimes it's more technical, sometimes it's more in the traditional sense of creative and arts and music. We are all actually creative.
[00:05:45] Speaker B: I love it. I do love intuition.
[00:05:48] Speaker A: As we talk more about intuition, I found this quote. I feel like this is very appropriate for right now. And this is by. Oh, geez, I don't forgot how to say this, lady Name? I'm so sorry. Sonya. Sonya Choquette. Okay, we'll go with that. She's a spiritualist, and she defines herself as an intuitive. Sonya said, intuition doesn't tell you what you want to hear. It tells you what you need to hear.
[00:06:15] Speaker B: I love that.
[00:06:17] Speaker A: So thinking of intuition in terms as our personal growth, a lot of times what we want to hear is not necessarily in line with what we need to hear.
[00:06:28] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. If it's not what we want to hear, we can dismiss it and we can get cerebral and be like, but this is what I want.
[00:06:37] Speaker A: Right. Great.
[00:06:38] Speaker B: That's cool. Let's see how that pans out for you.
[00:06:41] Speaker A: I love that sometimes following our intuition leads to discomfort, especially when it challenges or what we believe or what we want to hear.
[00:06:52] Speaker B: If I may.
Intuition is the language of the soul. Intuition is your soul, your highest self, your authentic, truest essence guiding you.
We all come here to learn lessons and to evolve in consciousness, I believe. And so intuition is the language of it.
[00:07:14] Speaker A: I have two examples about intuition that sometimes is in conflict with what we want to hear. Sometimes intuition is that persistent whisper that something isn't right in a relationship Sometimes. Yeah. Just sit in that for a second. Okay.
[00:07:37] Speaker B: Let's just amen and whatnot. Bow the head.
[00:07:42] Speaker A: Nope. I'm not going to start this laughing with you. I'm not doing it. I'm not. No, that's how we go. It's because that's how we go off the rails. And one of us has to be responsible.
So we convince ourselves that this relationship is amazing and perfect. And then sometimes we're eager to pursue new opportunities even though our gut is telling us, baby, hold on. Wait a minute.
We barrel ahead. Exactly. We barrel ahead. And then what happens?
[00:08:09] Speaker B: It's not right.
[00:08:10] Speaker A: Completely off the rails.
[00:08:11] Speaker B: I've had both instances where you really want to do something and you go to do it, and then you hear the nope, don't do. Nope, nope. And you still go. And it's like hard hit it. Tragedy. And just. It's just not great. And then I've had the other instance where, you know, intuition's telling me and I'm not listening. Yeah, just listen. Let me save you a lot of pain and grief.
[00:08:36] Speaker A: The internal conflict we feel between what we want to hear and what we need to hear is unsettling.
[00:08:44] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. It's not comfortable. No.
[00:08:46] Speaker A: On one hand, we're craving the validation and reassurance that our choices are sound, they make sense. And then on the other hand, intuition comes along and just Throws a wrench into our neatly laid plans, and we're like, what?
[00:08:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:00] Speaker A: Why would you do this? This was laid out very 1, 2, 3. And now you brought in letter Z. And that doesn't even make sense. Yeah.
[00:09:08] Speaker B: Ex.
There's a lot of trust that goes along with it.
[00:09:11] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Sometimes this discomfort comes from, what if I'm wrong? What if I lose what I have? Or what will it look like if I step out into this thing?
[00:09:22] Speaker B: Oh, that's when you know, better get stepping.
[00:09:25] Speaker A: Better get to stepping. Okay. So, Karen, I feel like you've hinted at it a little. What is your relationship with intuition? Do you find it easy to listen to or do you often second guess it?
[00:09:35] Speaker B: I am just living so beautifully with it. I'm hearing intuition, I'm hearing guidance, and I'm acting on it. And it's a really beautiful flow. It's a really beautiful state to be guided and listening to it. Yeah, I love it. It honestly makes things such a pleasure, such a joy, such a flow that I love.
[00:09:56] Speaker A: I also feel like I have a very close relationship with my intuition, especially when it comes to discernment, remembering to take a pause before I make any major decision or check it against what I know to be true.
[00:10:11] Speaker B: Right.
[00:10:11] Speaker A: It's like, okay, is this in line with who I am authentically? And usually if it isn't, my intuition has already told me that. And that goes for relationships, career choices or experiences. It's really spot on. And there are those times, especially a gut feeling that I will listen to. I'm like, I don't know. It's something about this person that we can be cordial, but I know we're not going to be close.
[00:10:33] Speaker B: That radar, that sixth sense we talk about that knowing without knowing why, you.
[00:10:37] Speaker A: Know, definitely for me, it is the inner knowing. Because there are sometimes when I know things, I'm like, why do I know this? Or why did I know this to be true?
[00:10:44] Speaker B: Totally.
[00:10:44] Speaker A: And like you said, can't give you any scientific facts or anything, but this thing is true, and then everyone else catches up to what you already knew was true, and you're like, see, I told you.
[00:10:53] Speaker B: Do you ever get that, like, mind bend where sometimes I'll know things a year, two, three in advance, and then it comes on. But I get so frustrated because I know the thing and I'm like, well, why isn't it here yet? That's for me, like, that's a big one. Just trusting it and being patient and breathing and being okay with that liminal Space. Yeah, but it's true. Yeah, your gut tells you. And so what I love about intuition is that the. It's the inner knowing. It's the inner wisdom. It's not cerebral. Sometimes it doesn't even make sense. It doesn't seem like it would make sense. It doesn't seem logical. And yet it's absolutely spot on. The idea that we follow our intuition. What's happening is it's going underneath conscious thought and pragmatic analysis, and it's going right to the heart of, is this good for me or not? Is this going to serve my path or not? And it just gets right to the heart of it, and it's magical, in my opinion. It's just. It's wild. It's wild. How many times have we experienced it? And we're like, what?
[00:11:54] Speaker A: Okay, so I don't know if you guys have picked up on it, but Karen and I are very big on intuition. But this episode I did say was about intuition. Intuition and intellect.
Let's switch gears and talk about intellect.
[00:12:11] Speaker B: I'm just kidding.
[00:12:12] Speaker A: I'm just kidding.
[00:12:13] Speaker B: I love brains.
[00:12:14] Speaker A: What are you, a zombie?
[00:12:17] Speaker B: I didn't say I love to eat them.
[00:12:18] Speaker A: I love them.
[00:12:19] Speaker B: I just love them. They're so complex.
Oh, yeah.
[00:12:23] Speaker A: Brains work.
[00:12:23] Speaker B: I love how brains work.
[00:12:24] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:12:25] Speaker B: Neuroplasticity is fascinating. Fascinating.
[00:12:29] Speaker A: So intellect refers to the capacity for reasoning, understanding and critical thinking. We analyze information, draw conclusions, and make informed decisions based on logic and evidence.
[00:12:41] Speaker B: This feels like frontal lobes. This feels like executive functioning.
[00:12:46] Speaker A: Yes, I am challenged a bit with.
[00:12:48] Speaker B: That, but.
[00:12:53] Speaker A: I already told you, I'm not doing this. I know, I know, I know. Bye.
[00:12:57] Speaker B: I'm trying to be good. Okay.
[00:12:58] Speaker A: You're doing a great job. By employing our intellectual faculties, we process information methodically and arrive at sound jobs. Judgment, judgments essential for personal and perhaps professional growth.
[00:13:14] Speaker B: I'm like, judgments sound.
[00:13:19] Speaker A: However, there are times when our intellect can lead us to overthink situations, creating a cycle of analysis paralysis. This resonates.
[00:13:28] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. The spiraling in on oneself.
[00:13:31] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:13:32] Speaker B: Oh, the perseverating.
[00:13:33] Speaker A: Yes. So instead of making a decision, we find ourselves ruminating over every detail, which can lead to increased stress and anxiety.
[00:13:42] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:13:43] Speaker A: The fear of making a wrong choice stifles our ability to act. And then we're dwelling on the what if scenarios, and all of a sudden we're stuck in the fear zone. And then what?
What are we doing?
[00:13:55] Speaker B: What are we doing?
We're just on repeat, same thing over and over.
[00:14:00] Speaker A: And overthinking just drains our mental Energy leaving us exhausted is this horrible cycle where we're not even making decisions. So when you're leaning too much into your intellect and you're overthinking instead of serving us, it becomes a burden.
[00:14:18] Speaker B: What I'm thinking now too, as you're saying all of that is there is a beautiful dance between intuition and intellect.
[00:14:26] Speaker A: Are you serious right now? Because that is the difference between intuition and intellect. They say this is what we be talking. This is what we were just talking about. Yes.
[00:14:36] Speaker B: I did not look at your notes. I literally was just thinking, there can be a beautiful dance when we get out of the way and let things kind of choreograph like, let those things come together and utilize the best of both things.
[00:14:52] Speaker A: Great job on the segue, Kieran. Oh, my God.
[00:14:55] Speaker B: I love when that happens.
[00:14:57] Speaker A: So understanding how intellect and intuition coexist and complement each other enriches our experiences and enhances our capabilities.
[00:15:08] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:15:08] Speaker A: So let's look at how they dance this beautiful waltz. Is it a waltz? Salsa. Depending on how spicy you are.
[00:15:16] Speaker B: It depends how. Depending on it'd be a salsa.
Spicy.
[00:15:20] Speaker A: It's salsa. Some of us just doing.
[00:15:24] Speaker B: It's a little. It's a little bachata, I think. Like, for me, it's a little cha cha.
[00:15:31] Speaker A: All right. So let's look at how they dance very well together in decision making, creativity, and problem solving.
All right. Decision making. When we are faced with critical choices, relying solely on intellect, as we discussed, may lead to analysis paralysis. While depending entirely on intuition can lead to impulsive decisions that don't sound like a good place to be on either side of it.
[00:15:55] Speaker B: Right. Let's come closer to the middle.
[00:15:57] Speaker A: Which is the ideal approach. To use our intellect to weigh options and our intuition to sense which choice resonates most deeply for me, I feel.
[00:16:06] Speaker B: Like intuition hits first and then I. Oh, my God.
[00:16:10] Speaker A: You are almost at the question of the day. I love it so much.
[00:16:13] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh.
[00:16:13] Speaker A: Like, this is great.
[00:16:14] Speaker B: Okay, just know.
[00:16:15] Speaker A: Keep going, Keep going.
[00:16:16] Speaker B: Because I'm like. I feel like I. What I was going to say was I feel like intuition hits first and then I decide whether I want to dig into it with my brain. Because mostly I just want to follow it. And it does seem externally to people, I'm sure in my life, like impulsive or why on earth would you. But my intuition's so spot on. That's how much I trust it. If I come at things from intellect first, sometimes it will undermine or blur or cause static of my intuition. I definitely cannot come from an Intellect first.
[00:16:48] Speaker A: Do you imagine any scenario or are there any scenarios where it's intellect first?
[00:16:54] Speaker B: Probably Financial makes sense decisions, right? You know, as much as I spend a lot of time in the spiritual realm, I know that there's a human being existing and having to take care of needs and children, housing and work and all the things for me, for sure. The financial piece, I can still use some intuition, but I definitely lean on intellect.
[00:17:20] Speaker A: Oh, yeah? Yeah.
[00:17:21] Speaker B: But everything else, I lean on intuition first. Now, we know that's gotten me in some trouble sometimes.
[00:17:29] Speaker A: Just beautiful learning experience.
[00:17:31] Speaker B: But it's beautiful learning, and honestly, I don't ever regret it. Clearly, there's something I need to learn. If I keep revisiting something, there's something I need to learn. My intuition's like, nope, we're gonna do it again.
No, we're gonna do it again, but this way you're getting closer. Let's do it one more time. Good, you got it. That's my intuition talking to me.
[00:17:49] Speaker A: Your intuition is nurturing, like, almost. It's very encouraging.
[00:17:53] Speaker B: It's very loving, my intuition. And it's a little bit like, oh, bless your heart. I already told you, we're just gonna have to do it again because you weren't listening.
Yeah. And what about you?
[00:18:03] Speaker A: Oh, in the areas more intellect forward, where I'm not as knowledgeable.
Like.
[00:18:13] Speaker B: Right.
[00:18:13] Speaker A: Of knowledgeable. The sense of. Exactly.
[00:18:16] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, right. Like big picture. Yeah.
[00:18:18] Speaker A: I'm like, how'd that work? I would definitely visit the experts on that.
[00:18:21] Speaker B: What about career decisions for you, which is like, work and purpose and money.
[00:18:27] Speaker A: I think about my most recent journey into corporate America. When I first started at that job, I did it because I needed money. But when I interviewed, I knew that's where I was going to work. I walked out the place, I was like, I know this. I will be here you until they say no more. Like, and you can't beat that.
[00:18:46] Speaker B: That is such a beautiful validation. That's such a beautiful feeling when you just know it so clearly. Like, you have.
[00:18:53] Speaker A: Oh, that was wonderful and amazing. I asked me what I said in an interview. No idea. But I was like, I'll be here.
[00:18:59] Speaker B: That's my job.
[00:18:59] Speaker A: I'll be here.
[00:19:00] Speaker B: We don't know why we do the things we do, but if we're trusting.
[00:19:04] Speaker A: And following, what about the dance in terms of creativity?
Intuition sparks the idea, inspiring exploration in uncharted territories. Intellect sometimes kicks in to refine these ideas.
No, no, not really.
[00:19:22] Speaker B: No.
[00:19:23] Speaker A: Really, really?
[00:19:24] Speaker B: Nope. Which is probably why I have so many ideas. I Do all the intuition pieces, and then I don't know what to do.
[00:19:34] Speaker A: Not inviting intellect into the creative dance, not so much.
[00:19:38] Speaker B: I mean, unless I'm going into a recording project and I have a lot of pre production, I got to be thinking about all that stuff. Or I'm planning out a workshop or a course, for sure. You know, but the intellect is a greater piece. But when I'm actually creating something like a song, like a work of art, that is 100 intuition.
[00:19:56] Speaker A: Really?
[00:19:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:58] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness. There's no probably like 80, 20 when I think about writing, which is why I'm like, intuition is the idea. And then I have a framework, and then I invite the intellect into it to be like, okay, well, we done went 70, 000 different places. Where do I actually want to go?
[00:20:14] Speaker B: Does using intellect reigns it in a little bit?
[00:20:16] Speaker A: Oh, absolutely.
[00:20:18] Speaker B: Focus the scope.
[00:20:19] Speaker A: Be a wild horse.
[00:20:20] Speaker B: Right. You be a bucking stallion.
[00:20:22] Speaker A: That mare is uncontrollable. Yes. I definitely need that piece of it. That where they need to get in the sandbox together and about 80, 20.
[00:20:32] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. I can absolutely see that. But for some reason, with me writing music, I think it's because I have done it for so long, and it started out as intuition flow, like a channeling creative process. And I've just let it be that once the song is out, the idea of getting out into the world and how to do that. Yeah, that's where I need a business manager.
[00:20:55] Speaker A: I need somebody to come in and go ahead and get me all the way.
[00:20:58] Speaker B: But I've never been the kind of writer who can sort of follow a trend or try to create a particular sound. What comes through me is 100 absolutely true to me.
So that's really interesting. That's one aspect where I absolutely.
[00:21:15] Speaker A: You're like, I'm all in.
[00:21:16] Speaker B: I'm all in. Intuition. I'm like, okay, let's do this.
Yeah, interesting.
[00:21:22] Speaker A: All right. The third area is problem solving.
Sometimes complex problems don't yield to logical thinking alone.
[00:21:32] Speaker B: Yes. Which. And people think that's counterintuitive or wrong. But really complex problems, inventors, they would take a nap or walk away and do something else that would free them up to. Then all of a sudden, like, boom. Get the answer. Yeah.
[00:21:49] Speaker A: They walk away. And then there's the epiphany like, oh, there it is. Oh, I definitely do this. So I'm like, oh, my gosh, I'm stuck. And then I'm banging my head. Then I walk away and I'm like, oh, there you go.
[00:21:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:21:59] Speaker A: Or like what we just did yesterday.
[00:22:00] Speaker B: We were doing last night, and I was like, glazing over, so I'm like, I don't know how to say this thing.
[00:22:06] Speaker A: Take a break. Boop. There you go.
[00:22:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, oh, it's like the little butterfly.
[00:22:10] Speaker A: Very obvious now, trying to chase it.
[00:22:13] Speaker B: It's going to run away. Totally, this conversation, Right?
[00:22:17] Speaker A: How do you create space in your creativity or problem solving or decision making to tap into your intuitive insights while still honoring your intellectual processes?
[00:22:30] Speaker B: That's a great question. Meditation plays a part for me. If I'm too in intellect and I can't figure something out, and even when it is, when I'm refining or working out a kink in a song, sometimes I just can't get it. So I go into stillness, meditating and opening up, and then the intuition rolls in. Then I know what to do, and then I go back to intellect and do the thing. It is a beautiful dance, isn't it?
[00:22:57] Speaker A: It is a beautiful dance when we embrace it.
[00:22:59] Speaker B: Reciprocal.
I love you, you love me.
[00:23:03] Speaker A: Let's all just be happy together.
[00:23:05] Speaker B: What about you?
[00:23:06] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness. Creating space, that's just what I do. We've talked about it several times before, about how I am intentional about rest, what that looks like taking space and time away. Sometimes that's the vacation. Like, away, away, where I'm off the grid. I'm not doing any of these things that require too much of one or the other. And just being is definitely a big part of it.
[00:23:31] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. I think we do ourselves such a favor when we allow ourselves that time of recuperation or rest or just openness away from everyday life things. There's just so much more richness and inspiration, I feel like, can come through when you have different experiences happening. And rest is crucial. I absolutely agree with that.
[00:23:52] Speaker A: Yeah. So it may seem that these two processes are at odds, but actually they can exist harmoniously. Intuition can guide us when we feel lost in a maze of information. Yes. Oh, my goodness. That's usually what I'm leaning into. I'm like, there's so much stuff. What do I do?
[00:24:12] Speaker B: What do I do? Show me the end of the thread that gets to the other side of the maze. Show me which one to pick.
[00:24:17] Speaker A: And at the same time, our intellect can ground our intuitive leaps, ensuring that our instincts are aligned with reality and that our decisions are well founded.
[00:24:26] Speaker B: Mm.
[00:24:27] Speaker A: Okay, Karen, you ready to dance?
[00:24:30] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. I'm so ready for this experience that's about to happen. I was telling Tara that This was one of the first albums that I owned as a kid. It was on so much rotation. And I think it's hilarious that she found this song.
[00:24:44] Speaker A: Yes. I stumbled upon a song that addresses the tension between intellect and intuition. It is super.
The logical song.
Check out this week's song on the YO Podcast playlist on Spotify.
[00:25:05] Speaker B: I must know who plays saxophone on that. I have to find out. Oh, my gosh. It just brought me somewhere. Oh, my gosh. It brings me back. Oh, wow.
And it's such a quirky, fun.
[00:25:17] Speaker A: It is a very fun song. Oh, we read. Yes. We were listening to it before we started recording, and we were like, this is such a beautiful representation of how in childhood we're more intuitive. How we lean into our intuition when we're learning and figuring out the world.
[00:25:37] Speaker B: Playful and it's light and it's creative.
[00:25:40] Speaker A: Yeah. And then somewhere along the way, as we journey into adulthood, the world tells us what we should be, who we are, who we are, how we should be doing, and how we show up in the world. And it's more intellectual and it's like, because you have to show up this way, you have to do this. Da, da, da, da. And I think we should flip that. Yeah.
[00:26:00] Speaker B: There's so much more room for more ways of doing it. Like, more ways of being, doing, living.
[00:26:06] Speaker A: And the beautiful question, the song about Please tell me who I am over and over again.
[00:26:13] Speaker B: Right.
[00:26:13] Speaker A: Especially if you think about, like, teenagers or young adults as they're in that in between phase, where there's, like, mixed messages, where there's something that they feel about who they are and then the world and society telling them they should be another way. And.
[00:26:28] Speaker B: Oh, that makes me just want to cry. My heart breaks when I think about that. Like, when the world starts to get a hold of them.
[00:26:35] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:26:35] Speaker B: That's why they have parents, I guess.
[00:26:38] Speaker A: Otherwise, it's the Lord of the flies. And we all know how that turned out.
[00:26:41] Speaker B: Well, yeah.
That wasn't great.
[00:26:44] Speaker A: It's not.
[00:26:45] Speaker B: That wasn't great.
[00:26:46] Speaker A: All right, it is time for the question of the day. I know it feels a little weird because we've been having wonderful conversations, exploring.
[00:26:54] Speaker B: So many questions already. So many. Like, what if?
[00:26:57] Speaker A: How do you and Karen, as she does sometimes, occasionally this happens. She answered the question a little bit. So I will formalize it here. And today's qotd.
What do you find easier to trust? Your intuition or your intellect?
[00:27:15] Speaker B: Intuition, hands down. The end.
[00:27:17] Speaker A: She's like, I felt like you needed to have a buzzer.
[00:27:19] Speaker B: How long Was that I did kind of feel like I was on a game show.
[00:27:24] Speaker A: That's my answer. Final answer. Yeah, that's it. Why is that? Why. Why is that your story now?
[00:27:30] Speaker B: It's always been my story. Why am I listening to it now?
[00:27:33] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:27:34] Speaker B: Because I think it's just deepening my connection to my spirituality. Like the energetic and spiritual aspects of my experience.
Tell me, show me that intuition is like the guiding force. It's the way to go.
[00:27:49] Speaker A: I've heard this question phrase, Are you head first or heart first? My answer was similar to what you said earlier. I'm definitely hard first because I need to feel that what I'm doing makes sense. But that doesn't even make like saying, like, it doesn't make sense, but it. Like, if I feel it, it. My brain will come along eventually. Like, it'll. It'll get there.
[00:28:10] Speaker B: It'll catch up, Right? Yeah. You lead with your heart for sure.
[00:28:13] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, I denied it for a little while. I'd be like, Peabody, Mr. Normally adjust my monocle.
Definitely hard first.
[00:28:26] Speaker B: I just. It's proven itself time and time again.
It does not fail me. Know things because. Yeah, I just trust it.
[00:28:34] Speaker A: And even in situations where it does not make sense logically, I could not imagine now being inauthentic as a heart first person. I'm sometimes baffled by intellect first. I'm like, well, make that make sense to my heart.
[00:28:53] Speaker B: Like, walk me through what do you. How did you.
[00:28:55] Speaker A: What? Walk me through how you get there. And sometimes when I'm asking questions of people who are more intellect first, I feel like I'm trying to lead them to their heart.
[00:29:04] Speaker B: Oh, that's funny.
[00:29:05] Speaker A: That's because I'm trying to understand it.
[00:29:07] Speaker B: Oh, that's interesting, isn't it?
[00:29:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:09] Speaker B: What a beautiful little piece of self awareness.
[00:29:13] Speaker A: It's a journey, y'all. Okay, so, explorers, this is so good. This is it.
Thank you so much for joining us on this exploration of intuition and intellect in that beautiful dance. We hope our discussion has sparked some reflections of how these two forces interact in your life. Remember, neither intuition nor intellect holds all the answers. It's the interplay between the two that can lead us to more authentic choices. So I found a quote. We've used this guy before. He's kind of popular. Whatever.
And the quote is from Albert Einstein.
[00:29:48] Speaker B: Oh, okay. I don't know why they're gonna say Deepak Chopra.
[00:29:50] Speaker A: Albert Einstein said, the intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
[00:30:04] Speaker B: Oh damn, that's good. What? That is so good. Yes.
[00:30:13] Speaker A: Once I saw that and found out, I was like, I don't even care what else is there. This is why I had to weave the other quote in this is.
[00:30:19] Speaker B: This is the one.
[00:30:20] Speaker A: Because I feel like he's reminding us of how we need both.
[00:30:24] Speaker B: Right. And the power of the one that.
[00:30:27] Speaker A: Is lifting the servant.
[00:30:29] Speaker B: Yeah, it's less acknowledged maybe in modern society.
[00:30:33] Speaker A: Right.
[00:30:34] Speaker B: But it's so important. Oh, I love that. It's the gift.
[00:30:38] Speaker A: It's the gift. Wow.
Finding the balance between our intuitive and intellectual selves is a journey that requires practice, self reflection, and sometimes even a leap of faith. Explorers, as you move forward, ask yourself how can you better listen to your intuition? What strategies can you employ to tame overthinking and invite clarity into your decisions? Until next time, keep embracing your intuition, challenge your intellect and always seek that balance.
[00:31:10] Speaker B: Oh my gosh. That's such a beautiful message. Wow. Thanks explorers for being here with us. I have thoroughly enjoyed this conversation. Thanks Tara and we'll see you next time. Take good care.
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