Episode Transcript
[00:00:03] Speaker A: Welcome to youo Odyssey Podcast, where your guides, Tara and Karen invite you on a transformative journey toward wholeness and personal growth.
Each week, we'll discuss topics related to the human experience and offer insights to help you along the way.
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So, explorers, let's dive into today's episode.
[00:00:53] Speaker B: Hey, explorers, it's Tara. Karen and I are so glad you're here with us today. We've been celebrating a lot lately in the episodes in our personal lives, so it's only right that we share the celebration with you. So today's episode is special for us because it marks two years since we released our very first episodes. And honestly, this journey would not be the same were you not here. Explore. So your messages, your stories, the way you've engaged with us has shaped our journey and continues to inspire us.
We're celebrating this milestone with you because you're a big part of what makes your odyssey matter. And that still feels a little, like, surreal to say. Like two years.
Oh, years.
[00:01:45] Speaker C: How many days that is, how many hours that is? It's like two years. What?
Because the first year, like, there was so much learning involved and so much adaptation and skill set happening. And then the second year, it just felt like we were just sitting in the living room with all of our explorer friends in a little. In a different way. And I guess in some ways, like an easier, more relaxed. Like, this is just a conversation. Not that it never felt, you know, it just always felt like a conversation. But that first year, we went through
[00:02:16] Speaker B: so many iterations, so. Exactly. It had to have this structure and this flow, and we had this out. Me. I'm talking about me. Because if you go back and listen to the earlier radio voice, AKA professional voice. Thanks, Mom. Of the episodes, like, I quickly shared that because I was like, it. It's not a performance because I know how to adjust and adapt to different spaces, and it is still me. But I thought it had to sound a certain way. And I'm like, no.
Either you gonna come and get me or you're not.
[00:02:49] Speaker C: No. I'm so glad because, yeah, there was a point where it felt like you were sort of melted into how I experience you in everyday life. And part of that is that Southern woman and those experiences and stories. Like, you went from having conversations, like talking to being in a conversation.
[00:03:08] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:03:09] Speaker C: As you. Right. Like and it was really beautiful. I think it shifted the whole energy and timbre of the podcast, honestly.
[00:03:16] Speaker B: Yeah. So we're closing out and celebrating the second year and looking ahead to year three and beyond. And I'm. I'm in awe. I'm still inspired.
And I remember when you and I first started talking about doing a podcast together, and we had these hopes of what it might be like, what it could become. We knew that we wanted to create a space or spaces where people could reflect on their own lives and their growth.
And I have been pleasantly surprised in so many ways by how the journey has actually unfolded. It didn't look anything like I thought it would.
[00:03:58] Speaker C: Interesting. Yeah. I think that's the beautiful thing about this life adventure. Like, let's hope it doesn't look like we think it's gonna look like, because then we'd already know, and it's so boring and it's small. You now, it's like, wow, look at all that we've learned and done and talked about and felt and experienced and heard back from explorers and engaged on. Everyone that has that has come up to me personally about the podcast has just said, similar to the email we just received, which is. It just feels like sitting in on a conversation between, you know, two girlfriends and, like. And it's like.
[00:04:34] Speaker B: And it's like, yes, we did it.
[00:04:37] Speaker C: We did it, Tara. I think we take a moment to feel really proud. Not only the fact that we said yes, but that we kept showing up for something that is meaningful to us and pays us in other ways than fiscally, you know what I mean? Currently, like, just doing it out of our hearts and out of love and out of you. Just, like, a divine direction to give.
[00:05:04] Speaker B: I think I've seen this quote a few different places now, create more than you consume. And this podcast is definitely part of our creating more than we consume. Since being a podcast host, I've listened to less podcasts, but I'm, like, always inspired by the clips and things I see of other people. But I listen to less now as a host, and I think part of that for me is keeping the conversation authentic and peer to who we are.
[00:05:32] Speaker C: Yeah, right. Because you know that can seep in, right?
[00:05:35] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. So let's talk a little bit about what we thought this would be, what it actually demanded and required of us, how it changes and what we're excited to see in this next chapter. Yeah, let's go back.
[00:05:49] Speaker C: Let's go back.
[00:05:50] Speaker B: Let's rewind two years ago. I mean, it's a little bit more than two years ago because we recorded the first episodes in 2023.
[00:05:57] Speaker C: And we had the end of 2023.
[00:05:59] Speaker B: November of 2023. O yeah.
[00:06:02] Speaker C: That was the first at Queenies.
Wow.
[00:06:06] Speaker B: Yeah, we were baby podcasts.
[00:06:10] Speaker C: We were a podcast. Babies. Yeah.
[00:06:12] Speaker B: And we were dreaming about this podcast and like, super excited to get started. And I remember in 2024, I had no idea what I really was stepping into and I was like, you know what? Yeah, so let's launch this in February. And you know, wouldn't it be really cool to launch on February 29, because that day doesn't come around every four years. And it was like we had the Fantastic Four gathered together. We were rallying, we were doing things. And February 29th came and went. We were like, yeah, so that's the thing. It is.
[00:06:44] Speaker C: Okay. We were like, well, that didn't happen. But it's happening. It's in the works. It's still happening.
[00:06:49] Speaker B: We still have the.
Yeah, but isn't that what's so joyful,
[00:06:53] Speaker C: I think about learning and doing new things is like there's surprises, right? There's learning curves, there's things you don't expect. There's bumps, know, sledding down the hill.
[00:07:02] Speaker B: We was down here with no sled.
[00:07:06] Speaker C: But we just kept our eye on the motivation of it, which I think is really at the heart of what we do in everything we do, business wise. But especially in the podcast that was so evident that we just were committed to coming together, talking about things that were meaningful and important to us, sharing our hearts and creating some kind of an impact or a positive. Right. Effect ripple in the world. And absolutely that's. That was our intention and that's what we're continuing to do still.
[00:07:37] Speaker B: Our intention was to create this positive impact, this ripple of love and light out into the world. I feel like starting and getting it out there was our biggest hurdle at the time. Launching the show, putting our voices out there, inviting people into the conversation, letting people know that this is what we're doing.
And at the same time, there was so much joy in the moment when those first episodes finally went live. It's like we did it and look at our baby, look at her out there. And then our people listened. And we dropped three episodes that first day and our third episode still to this day is our most listened to episode about self love.
[00:08:18] Speaker C: See that, that says something because that is, I think that's the root of everything.
And people feel that. People know that. People know that it's a returning home. Right. People Know that it's like I. There's a little voice, right, that tells us we are whole, we are. We are everything we need. And it's important to love every aspect of ourselves, even the messy or shadow bits. And that's. There's a reason that resonates, man, because we don't. We don't learn that, like, culturally, maybe even in humanity. It's. It's the root of everything. It's the root of all joy, all beauty, all journeys, all challenges. It's everything.
[00:09:00] Speaker B: All right. So. Yeah, I know, right? That's.
[00:09:02] Speaker C: I did not know that that was
[00:09:03] Speaker B: the most listened to, still the most listened to episode. When we first were dreaming your odyssey, did you have a picture in mind of what you thought this journey might look like?
[00:09:17] Speaker C: Not really. Except to say, I knew that you and I both had, like, so many ideas and thoughts and dreams and so much love that we wanted to share that I knew that it would be based around that. I honestly don't know that I would have thought of, like, time wise. Are we going one year? Are we going two years? Are we going five, 10? Like, I don't see a need to ever stop this. And so I'm like, it is just limitless.
So I think that that is, I guess, a little surprising because I wasn't really sure, especially with me, because I get so diverted. But you've been a real anchor in the.
We've done that together. We've anchored in this being a really solid base of what we do and who we are and how we share.
I'm surprised, but not surprised to see it. The longevity and the commitment and how it just keeps going because we love it so much. And that's the only reason to do anything, right, Is because you love it and it brings you joy, right? Yeah, I just think it's beautiful.
[00:10:16] Speaker B: It's interesting that you said brings you joy. I didn't really have this grand vision or grand idea of one still doing this.
Walking into year three, I was like, you know, this is something we do until we launch our business.
[00:10:33] Speaker C: It was a little side thing, just
[00:10:34] Speaker B: a little, you know, look, get our feet wet, if you will, before we do the things. And this thing has become the front porch. This thing is like how we consistently invite people into our hearts and into our heads. Then I'm like, oh, wow.
Who knew, not me, not you, that there would be such consistent joy in. In sharing this way. Because, Carrie, you know me and some of the explorers listening, know me. Be like, tara, don't share all of that. Like historically.
[00:11:12] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah.
[00:11:13] Speaker B: Keep it real close to the vest and just wonder, like, oh, I wonder how she feels about.
[00:11:18] Speaker C: Mm. Mm.
[00:11:20] Speaker B: And it's been me and cracks me in so many ways.
[00:11:24] Speaker C: It's been really honestly to see the trajectory of this, how our voices have evolved in terms of trusting and being vulnerable enough out in the world to share what we share. And I think that is a testament to our commitment to our individual and collective business growth that we're just willing to just show up no matter how we are now. We've had some miss, like, we've each shown up bit messy and we were just like, we're doing it. This is what we're committed. It's like there's not even a second. Like, if we miss a week and we have to double up, we're like, it's okay because we're doing committed. We're committed to this.
[00:12:05] Speaker B: We. It's not even like that. We made this promise to an audience. Like, we just decided and we're like, this is what we're going to do.
[00:12:14] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:12:14] Speaker B: However long it looks this way, like this we gonna do 52 episodes a year. One way or another.
[00:12:20] Speaker C: One way or another, we're doing this. And it's so interesting because I remember that initial podcast that I was doing where I invited women that I really value and love and wanted to hear from and know that they're full of wisdom, as women are in general, but the women in my circle in particular.
And I remember sitting across from you and thinking, I'm hearing and seeing a new side of this person.
[00:12:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Stories that you would have never known in our everyday conversations.
[00:12:52] Speaker C: And that has just continued through, you know, I think our friendship has deepened for sure. We've learned a lot about each other. We've held space for each other. We've had forgiveness for each other. We've talked through some
[00:13:07] Speaker B: heavy stuff.
[00:13:08] Speaker C: Some stuff.
And I don't know, it just feels so life affirming at the end of the day. It just feels so life affirming and joyful to do it with you. There's nobody I'd rather be doing this with, I can tell you that.
[00:13:23] Speaker B: All right. So that's how we started what we saw. Let's go to what it actually required, maybe even sometimes demanded of us.
[00:13:35] Speaker C: Oh, just sonic. Just sonically. Jesus.
[00:13:38] Speaker B: My goodness. So we learned pretty quickly that starting something, especially something meaningful, is only the first step. Like we spoke in our recent Identity Rejuvenation series about the real work is in sustaining the thing that you started
[00:13:56] Speaker C: Sustenance my friends, the sustenance.
That's where the grit comes in. That's where the commitment comes.
[00:14:02] Speaker B: Like, are you really committed? I'm in. I'm leading a study right now from fans to followers, and something came up. Yeah, something came up last night where it's like, the difference between a fan and a follower is their level of commitment.
And I'm thinking through that and applying that to this podcast journey with you now. And what has surprised me most over these past few years is, like, the discipline of consistency that's required.
The discipline of consistency. Like continuing to have those honest conversations with each other, continuing to show up week after week, and finding space for reflection in the middle of some very interesting seasons of life for both of us.
[00:14:51] Speaker C: Both of us. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I honestly, I look back at certain seasons and I'm thinking, like, when I moved last summer, I'm like, did we record? How did we. What did we record? Did we were. We still do it. Like, we were. Because now it's second nature. And now we're like, well, we need to. Like, it's not if it's when and how. Like, it's not.
[00:15:13] Speaker B: How do we make this happen in our week?
[00:15:15] Speaker C: Yeah, like, is it. It was at your house and then it was at the library. We were like, figured out all these different logistics of. Of how we make it happen. We never missed. We never missed.
We never missed. Can you. I don't know how many people can say that about anything in their lives for two years, but I can tell you that for me, this is probably the most consistent thing I've ever done yet.
[00:15:40] Speaker B: Being committed to creating this podcast is a part of, like, now, in this identity that I'm holding, how I'm able to, like, even I don't feel like, you know, posting a little story, but I'm gonna do it because I'm committed. Like, I've made that commitment to myself. And this work, this podcast has helped me remember that because we never miss,
[00:16:03] Speaker C: like, what we never miss.
[00:16:05] Speaker B: And I.
[00:16:05] Speaker C: Part of me thinks it's like, because it's front facing and we're like, well, we're doing this. And we said we're doing this. And people are gonna expect that episode on Tuesday.
[00:16:11] Speaker B: But we never told that we were gonna do this.
[00:16:14] Speaker C: I know it's an internal commitment, but it's become so externalized in that, like, we're like people,
[00:16:21] Speaker B: our listeners are listening
[00:16:23] Speaker C: and wanting and waiting, as are we. So, like, it's like everybody's looking forward to it. So, yeah, I am so looking forward to.
[00:16:32] Speaker B: To it. And there's also like this. Oh, I said on this episode already, like how historically, like I will keep things close to the vest. That's part of the defense mechanism that I have been conditioned into. But a certain freedom and vulnerability that comes with sharing your voice publicly. That I've learned a lot. I feel like I've been in an accelerated class over the past seven months. Like it's like I can show my voice publicly, but this version of my voice so. But now like this more integrated version of me is extremely vulnerable. I'm crying all over the place now. Like I'm just like, listen, I have these emotions and I feel these things very deeply.
Five years ago, nobody would know that.
[00:17:14] Speaker C: Explorers. Can I just tell you that it's like one of the single greatest joys of my life to watch this.
Like I'm like, I just, like I just feel so blessed to be able to. Well now you all have experienced it too. To just be in a space where she's so deeply. That's open, in touch with what she's feeling and. Yes. And willing to be open about it and transparent and vulnerable. And it's like I'm telling you from five, ten years, like who. It just gives my heart the warm and fuzzies because you know, I'd be crying all over the world every day since you met me, so.
[00:17:49] Speaker B: Right, Exactly.
It's like, Tara, do you have tears? Yes. They're reserved.
[00:17:55] Speaker C: Yes.
They're in a little teeny tiny bottle and I take them out once a year.
[00:17:59] Speaker B: Exactly. You know, a good cleanse. Even though I'm the same person that will tell my friends and my family, like, no, you need to cry. Like I still cry. Like I would pull it back together. So you be like, you was crying. I was. Was very sad or very.
Some. I don't do this as much anymore. Angry. Cuz I'm an angry crier. And like if I'm angry crying, everybody just need to move and sit down. Cuz it's not that. You know, I don't think I knew that I'm an angry cry. Like people that leave, it's so big.
[00:18:29] Speaker C: And then you.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: It's just like, oh, and then I cry. And then I'm like, I gotta take a moment for myself because I know if I've gotten to that point, I'm that frustrated. Like this is not gonna go well if I continue this conversation anyway, so. But yes, all of that to say that these conversations are very real, they're very personal and I've also learned to trust the process, trust the growth, trust showing up. And trust that even as we are slowly, steadily building this community together, that not every meaning thing grows quickly, nor does it have to.
[00:19:06] Speaker C: It's true. I mean, most endeavors, right. Really you don't see a lot of the behind the scenes, the long term, sustained commitment and growth. And then one day people are like, oh, you have this amazing. Yeah, like, yeah. For 10 years.
[00:19:20] Speaker B: Overnight success. No, we've been at this plugging along for forever. Decade.
[00:19:25] Speaker C: Yeah. That's so funny. What I've really been loving seeing is you have been learning to or just been trusting your voice more. You know, your voice, your true voice, your authentic voice. And that's been awesome too. I'm guessing people who've listened the whole way can hear that as well.
[00:19:47] Speaker B: Y' all know me, I love a script.
[00:19:49] Speaker C: She loves a good script.
[00:19:50] Speaker B: I do.
[00:19:51] Speaker C: But honestly, you are scripting and you're sort of planning has enabled this to be sustained too, because I am not a scripter. And we would be in the. On the planets, you know, we're doing this episode live. They're like, yeah, it would just be. I'd be like, let's just talk about bubblegum. I don't know what we'd be talking about. So you've definitely been like an anchor in that way too. And all of the vision in terms of the artwork, I just want the explorers to know that's just all come from you and your experience in your background, which has been.
[00:20:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:24] Speaker C: Which feels really, definitely spot on to
[00:20:27] Speaker B: tap into like all, all of the, all of the creativity and such new and amazing and beautiful ways. So before I ask you this question, Karen, I want to be honest about like a couple of surprises I did not expect.
Just how much, like the small behind the scenes work would add up my commitment, our commitment to our listeners, that kept me going. Again, we never said out loud to like, we promise to be here with you every seven days we show up and we'll do this. But because I was committed to the belief that what we share, what we say matters and it will always find the right person at the right time, I did not expect to have to rely on the vision, the dream and the hope as much as I did for some weeks, especially in those very heavy seasons over the past few years. And I am surprised by the episodes that that brought out big emotions or how certain doubts and fears that were deep seated in me, like in terms of my voice, in terms of expression, like this podcast. This experience helped Push me to reflect on those parts of my journey in a much deeper way.
[00:21:47] Speaker C: I'm gonna say something about that because it's funny. When I, you know, I am a general in general. I am, like, visionary dreamer. I see the thing. I don't really know about boots on the ground logistics, but I know that this is what's happening. And I feel like you really dove in and you sort of trusted and took that leap.
And. And then we sort of started working out, like, logistics. But it was like there was that. We had that vision, that dream, that big picture that I think really fueled it. For even the first six months, we were just like, this is what we're doing. We didn't really know the impact, and we didn't really even that we were working out some, like, sound issues and computer issues and time, logistically getting it done, and art, all of the things.
And then the pattern started to emerge where it was almost like holding the space and being in it then allowed or inspired you to just start really bringing, like, all of those skills.
[00:22:51] Speaker B: All of it really, like, that really
[00:22:53] Speaker C: just kind of, like, coalesced. And so I just think it's such an interesting Yin Yang relationship that we have. And I'm grateful for.
I think you're the Yang. I think I'm. Maybe I'm the Yin. I think you're the Yang. I'm grateful for your Yang because.
[00:23:09] Speaker B: To my Yin.
[00:23:10] Speaker C: Yes, I. I gotta be honest, you believe in this enough, and you have helped me sustain in a lot of ways. So thank you.
[00:23:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, I guess that's. You just like. That was. The question is, like, what has surprised you most about what it takes to. To sustain something like this?
[00:23:28] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, you know, my whole life, being a creative and being sometimes in the ether when other people didn't know what I was doing or why, like, just being in that creative space so much, maybe in a lot of ways, ideologically sort of lit the fire and got the ball rolling. But in other creative ventures I've been in, if I don't have someone that's really holding the torch with me and keeping it lit and staying committed and sustained with it, I can tend to sort of drop off my energy and then look to go to something else. It's sort of the nature of my brand of creativity, I guess you might want to say. And so that's why it's been such a beautiful melding, because it's almost like you've been the channel or the funnel or the constant, but it's really held it together and allowed me to still be who I am and explore over here, you know, and you ground me in that, so it's really beautiful.
[00:24:28] Speaker B: I remember, like, that was one of your reflections when you listen to, like, our episodes, and you're like, I love how, like. Like, I'll say a thing and then you'll go.
Go explore, and I bring it right back around because, again, remember, one of my skills is a dot connector. So I'm listening for the thread I'm following as best I can. And then assuming, like, this is how we got there and how it brings it back around, like, dot connecting.
[00:24:53] Speaker C: You do that better than anybody in my life. Like, you're able to listen as I'm doing the thing, and then you pull out the things that brings us back somehow. I'm like, how does she do that? Like, she brought it right back to what we were talking about. And sometimes I'm like, I'm in another place. I don't even maybe know exactly what I'm saying, you know? And then you're just like, oh. I'm like, oh, yeah. Like, she can follow me, y'. All.
It's wild.
Yeah.
[00:25:21] Speaker B: This journey has definitely changed us. We've mentioned ways already that we have been changed. We've changed in vulnerability and confidence and voice and consistency. And above all, I have learned, and what's been changed in me is to trust the conversation, even when there is no clear answer or clear path. Pick the topic, Bubblegum, since you said that earlier, and being open to, like, somehow this bubble gum is gonna come back around and it's going to serve the greater good. It's going to impact someone, somehow, some way. Trusting that conversation has allowed this platform and for you and I, Karen, to show up more authentically, not just here on the pod, but in our lives. And we've been open to letting it evolve and kind of let it tell us what's next.
[00:26:16] Speaker C: I. That was so well said, because trust is the first step, for sure. Like, we're like. You say, yes, we trust this process. We trust whatever this is, this unfolding. And I'm talking about in our lives as well as in the. You know the podcast is a microcosm, right, of what's happening in our lives.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: Sometimes too close.
[00:26:34] Speaker C: I mean, like, literally. Sometimes y' all explore. Sometimes we'll be getting on the call, and we think it's about one thing. And then Tara, like, the night before, she's like, nah, kind of feeling like. And then it's like the best episode
[00:26:47] Speaker B: we've ever Recorded the best because we're
[00:26:49] Speaker C: trusting and staying open to it.
[00:26:51] Speaker B: I love sitting in between at any given time, like, three different episodes. So an episode that we recorded, you know, whatever ago, and then it's edited, but then when it comes out, like, at each of those points, it's timely and, like, I listen back to, like, what we. I was. Like, we said that. Who. Who was. Who was recording who. Who said that, said that.
[00:27:15] Speaker C: How is it that. What.
[00:27:16] Speaker B: How is it when it was recorded
[00:27:18] Speaker C: two weeks ago or four weeks ago
[00:27:20] Speaker B: to what I need to hear now, today. Yeah. Whenever you listen to it. So I hope that is what our explorers experience as well. Like, when they're listening, like, what Something that we said has that little spark that ignites something in you and who.
[00:27:36] Speaker C: Yeah. I think it's those things. It's big magic. It's those things that are universal, and we touch on those things in every episode. That's the thing. We get to that point, that magic. And I'm not saying just one, but at least one, if not 17, in an episode where it's like, that's gonna hit. That's gonna resonate with somebody. It resonates with us. And we know as we are humans, all cut from the same cloth and all made of energy. Like, it's going to resonate on some level with someone. And that's the beautiful thing. It's like just letting that sort of ebb and flow and watching the flow and the ease of that. The conversation takes.
[00:28:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:11] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:28:12] Speaker B: Bottom line, this podcast, your odyssey, our business, like, it didn't just grow a platform. It grew and shifted and changed and stretched us in so many beautiful ways. And I'm forever grateful. Let's. Let's dream. Let's look ahead at year three, plus.
[00:28:31] Speaker C: Yeah. Because some exciting things are coming, right?
[00:28:34] Speaker B: Yes. Yes.
So we're not trying to map out.
As a recovering cartographer, we're not trying to map out every step that comes next, but we really do want to dream with you. Explore a little bit and hold.
[00:28:51] Speaker C: Yeah. And hold a vision. Right. Because we don't want everything to be right. Year two didn't look like year one. Year three is not gonna look like year two. No.
[00:28:59] Speaker B: Was it? We set the goal, but we're not like, there we go. That's the rest of it.
At the very least, we know that we want to keep having these deep, real, authentic conversations, conversations about identity and growth and reflection, and we want to keep creating a space where our explorers can pause and reflect on their lives and the paths that they're on foundationally. Like, that will not change.
[00:29:27] Speaker C: Yeah. And I think. I think with year three, as we're exploring, first of all, we've been guests and are continuing that. That was a big deal.
[00:29:36] Speaker B: And then also huge.
[00:29:38] Speaker C: We loved it so much. And then we're inviting guests on a little more regularly. We have a list, a growing list of people that we're going to be inviting both locally and globally to be on our podcast. And we're excited for that, for not only us, but for the explorers, because we're going to be very discerning about who we invite on. And it's going to be people that we really respect and admire and that are offering something really brilliant and positive and impactful from a place of love. And I think that's just gonna be, like, how we are together. And then on steroids. Like, I just think it's just gonna be.
[00:30:16] Speaker B: That's always nice to have excited about for you.
[00:30:19] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:30:19] Speaker B: Less than potting us gonna be amazing.
[00:30:22] Speaker C: Us on steroids. Imagine.
[00:30:24] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I definitely feel year. I mean, the end of year two has definitely highlighted things are accelerated. Like, things move very quickly. Like, how things happen when we were first guests on Jen's podcast, like, how quickly that happened is like, oh, yes. And. Oh. Like, we're doing it. We're doing it now.
[00:30:46] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:30:46] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
[00:30:47] Speaker C: And that's the thing, too, is that. Yeah.
[00:30:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:49] Speaker C: The yes is getting faster. Right?
[00:30:51] Speaker B: Like, the yes is so accelerated.
[00:30:53] Speaker C: Yeah. Like, we say yes and we need to be ready to roll and just
[00:30:57] Speaker B: like, for real, like, when you, like, boom.
[00:30:59] Speaker C: Yes. Boom.
[00:31:00] Speaker B: I only have my bag. Have your go bag ready.
[00:31:03] Speaker C: Just put your toothbrush in pocket and let's roll. You know, like, that's all you really need. So. Yeah, I. And I dream, too. I. I'm excited about, like, just global expansion. I'm excited about us doing more in person. I. I envision the podcast doing some out in the world recordings, like, with. With people. Like an audience of people that are sort of, you know, first of all, we're. Listen, you know, we're talking with each other, and then we're opening it up to the room. And I think that's going to be really exciting.
And maybe that's year four. I don't know. Or maybe it's year three. I have no idea there.
[00:31:38] Speaker B: It's the vision. That's all we get because we don't know when.
[00:31:40] Speaker C: We don't have to worry about the when and the how. We just the yes and the go.
[00:31:47] Speaker B: So growth happens, change Happens often quietly in conversations and unexpected lessons, like doing the podcast with your sister. And I feel like this song captures the feeling of growth very beautifully.
This song is from Australian band the Paper Kites, and the song is Bloom.
[00:32:11] Speaker C: Nice.
[00:32:16] Speaker A: Check out this week's song on the YO Podcast playlist on Spotify.
[00:32:26] Speaker B: Can I be close to you personally? It's like, can I be close to our explorers? And the answer for the past two years has been yes. I can be vulnerable. I can share pieces and parts of me without losing myself. And it's not just a request of someone else. It's permission to be in community and to be in a vulnerable. A vulnerable dream with other people.
[00:32:52] Speaker C: And in a way, it's like, yeah, you're requesting that of yourself. Can I be close enough to you? Right. Can I trust you enough to be you, to be all of you and to feel safe and to share?
[00:33:05] Speaker B: Yeah, really love it.
All right, you know what time it is? It's time for our question of the day. Uotd Today's question.
What has the last season of your life, let's say two years or so, taught you about who you're becoming?
[00:33:23] Speaker C: The last two years have shown me that, one, I can show up completely authentic as I am in wholeness.
Two, that I can commit to things and. And make them happen and have vision and realize that vision.
Three, that I can trust the people around me to love me and to support me and to accept me as I am.
And four, I would say I learned that even more probably cellularly and more deeply that my voice matters and that sharing love and light from an authentic place and using my voice really matters.
[00:34:08] Speaker B: Okay, let me go ahead and piggyback off of that one.
The voice aspect, I don't know if that. That was ever a dream or a whisper like that. My actual physical voice, like all of the components of my voice would.
That would be of value.
That would be something of impact. And this past two years, this past season has definitely shown me that who I'm becoming, like, that's a requirement. Like, sharing my voice, sharing all of the aspects of my voice is definitely required for where I'm going. And then I've also learned that I am more resilient than I thought in, like, different ways. Like, challenges, especially in the early days of potting, that would have derailed me. And I'm like, that's just too hard. Why are we doing. Why? Like, it shouldn't be, like, why would
[00:35:06] Speaker C: we even do this?
[00:35:06] Speaker B: Like, what? Or even the. The delulu of I should know how to do this? Like, why do I not know how to do this? Like, those types of challenges would have stopped me and derailed me, have become things that I consistently move through.
[00:35:24] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, because, you know, those things that come up in our lives, those calls that we feel, those yearnings, that longing to do something, it's because there's room for us to grow in that our soul is like, I want to grow and learn and do more and be more. And this thing is going to be the vehicle for that. Like, I don't think you or I would have said two years ago that this podcast would be. Be a vehicle for such like self growth and self love for ourselves on our own journey. And yet it's so much, so much of that.
[00:35:52] Speaker B: Two years ago, explorer Karen and I planted something.
We didn't know exactly what we were planting or what it would become, but somewhere along the way, this journey with you all has shaped us just as much as we believe that we've shaped it.
So I have a quote from American author Ursula K. Le Guin. It is good to have an end to journey toward, but it is the journey that matters in the end.
[00:36:26] Speaker C: Yeah. It's never been about the goal, my friends, my explorers. It's about who you become as you journey towards the goal.
[00:36:36] Speaker B: And that's the truth of this past two years of potting with Karen. We launched a podcast and we've also built something meaningful.
And more than any of those things, we've grown, we've learned. And I know that I've become braver in my voice and a lot more curious about the paths that we are walking together.
[00:37:00] Speaker C: Yeah. I think that if I could impart one thing at the end of this episode to our beautiful beloved listeners, it is that you are here to grow and to share your authentic voice and heart with the world.
And loving yourself and all of your parts is really the. The foundational piece of that. And so trust your voice, trust yourself. Your soul knows where it wants to go and it knows the growth that is in store for it. And it's a beautiful thing. So thanks for joining us, explorers.
[00:37:38] Speaker B: Thank you so much for being part of this journey with us. Whether you've been listening from the embarkation or you've joined us somewhere along the way, we are extremely grateful that you're here with us. And until next time, explore. Remember, the path you're walking may be shaping you more than you realize.
[00:37:56] Speaker C: Yeah. And we love sharing the journey with you explorers. Until next time, take good care.
Thank you.
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